Friday, January 15, 2016

Saturn in the 12th House: Accepting Aloneness

Having Saturn in the 12th House of your birth chart is not an easy experience and that’s something that those of us with this placement have to own up to. I’ve already written an article about Saturn in the 12th. But 12th House planets are so complicated that you could easily write quite a few posts about them. Seeing as how I have Saturn in the 12th House, my own experiences with this placement have led me to realizations that I want to share, in order to expound on it.  

The 12th House isn’t called the “house of isolation” for nothing. But, as I’ve said a few times before, let’s not limit it to prisons, asylums, hospitals, and monasteries. That’s how they classified the 12th House in the olden days, when it got labeled by traditional astrologers as the gloomiest, scariest house. Keep in mind, though, even though I’m not a fatalistic astrologer, I do think that the 12th House is quite possibly the scariest house in the birth chart, alongside the 8th House. It’s not because it’s a “bad” house but because it represents the thing human beings are taught to fear: aloneness. So, having Saturn in your 12th House can feel like a burden, if you let it feel that way.

We live in an extroverted society; at least, speaking for Americans and those in the Western world. That’s become truer and truer as in this modern age. It’s why introversion can be such a misunderstood thing by people. As you probably have already heard, introversion does not have to equal shyness, fear, insecurity, or some sort of emotional problem. It’s simply the feeling of being able to recharge while alone; something that the majority of people with 12th House planets can relate to. But, the state of aloneness can be perplexing, depressing, terrifying, or strange to many people. The reason why is because to be alone is to be faced with the end. 

The 12th House represents where we feel alone and how, in some ways, we must be alone. It is not a direct, obvious house and planets here do not have to be, and actually cannot be, all out in the open and in your face, even if they are conjunct the Ascendant. They don’t function that way. Instead, they are meant to function on a mysterious other plane. Planets in the 12th House operate behind a veil that separates this world from another: whether it’s vivid dreams, the fantasies that fuel great art, the musings of the soul, or the spiritual awareness that takes you to another realm. But, essentially, all these trips to a different realm are connected to one thing: death. 

Saturn in the 12th House is a deeply existential placement, then. The 12th House represents the end, so it is innately connected to what it feels like to die. It’s not like the 8th House death of something passing on, only to be transformed and reborn. The 12th House is the feeling that inevitably tells you that you’re going to have to leave this world alone. You can’t take anything or anyone with you. All of the things that you’ve accomplished in this life are just going to drift away, as you prepare to head off into the next one. Now, again, this death doesn’t have to be taken so literally. Just like the 8th House has metaphorical “deaths”, so does the 12th. But, essentially, your responsibility, with Saturn in the 12th, is coming to grips with what it means to be alone.

Therefore, life just cannot be as lighthearted and carefree for you as society wants it to be. For us 12th House Saturn folks, we can try very hard to make it that way. Since planets in the 12th House are often repressed through conditioned shame, we were made to feel ashamed, particularly by our caregivers, of our unshakable awareness of life’s deeper, sadder elements. We were brought up in an environment that was desperately cheerful or oblivious, with at least one of our parental figures doing whatever they can to avoid their unhappiness. So, we were taught to avoid our own unhappiness or sadness, remaining in denial of the angst-ridden depression or the consuming anxiety that keeps making life challenging for us. In the denial phase, we experience it like some sort of outside force that’s trying to get us, instead of a dark unrest that’s inside of us.

It’s ridiculous, though, that the process of soul-searching and quiet, solitary reflection is somehow looked at as “weird” or “depressing.” But, that’s the society we live in. People with Saturn in the 12th House have a responsibility to accept aloneness because of the chance it gives us to reflect and to develop our internal life. In order to do this, we have to figure out how to regularly disconnect from a world that often discourages such introspection and to, instead, find strength and purpose in it. That can be difficult for some with this placement to do until their Saturn Return. You may sometimes see those with a 12th House Saturn running from solitude, seeing it as too difficult or frightening. The other world it opens us up to is what can be feared, even for those of us who embrace our solitude. Just about anything that involves a surrender can feel like a terrifying death.

There are usually deep anxieties within those with this placement about what is unseen, unknown or uncontrollable that need to be overcome. Fear is already irrational but it becomes highly irrational with this placement because it’s a fear of what’s irrational. So, it’s fear feeding off of fear, basically. I’m not scared of what most people are scared of and I think that a lot of other Saturn in the 12th House people can relate to this. I’m not scared of heights, flying in a plane, public speaking, spiders, talking to strangers, walking alone at night. Things that scare me aren’t regular, day-to-day things. It’s this quality that can make Saturn in the 12th House people seem like we are just flat-out fearless or free of doubt because our fear usually doesn’t emerge in “normal” situations or contexts. But, I am scared of ghosts and the idea of losing my mind and the thought of getting a sudden illness and the possibility of dying without having done anything meaningful or important.

This is why we have such intense anxiety because what we fear the most are the things we can’t touch or that we don’t know. But, this is why we have such a duty to come to terms with these existential fears. It’s all something that will come to a head during the Saturn Return, especially the first. Throughout a Saturn Return in the 12th House, if you’ve avoided this process, it will be easy to feel like you’re losing your mind, bringing your worst fear to reality. It’s not something that many other people will be able to know about or discern. In fact, you can get yourself into difficult situations, during this time, where you feel lonelier than ever. A Saturn Return in the 12th can be increasingly isolating and if you haven’t made the effort to stay consciously aware of your fears, challenges, and sorrows, you can be the one isolating yourself without even knowing it.

But, for those of us with this placement, the time that our Saturn comes back around is the time where we have to face all of what’s within us. In doing so, we face all that’s within everyone. Even though the 12th House is about being alone, it’s also about realizing that you’re not totally alone because what you’re feeling is what anyone else has felt at any given time. This house is about the collective unconscious and it’s our job, with Saturn in the 12th, to tap into that. The collective unconscious is a rich, profound, disturbing, beautiful place, where everything lives and everything dies. So, by accepting the fact that you’re always going to feel alone, you’re going to clear the way and develop the strength to “pass away” into this other realm, where great spiritual wisdom, artistic inspiration, and universal empathy lie. You have to be able to do so by yourself.

That brings us to the father figure element of Saturn, as this is what Saturn represents. With Saturn in the 12th, you have to come to a place of peace by realizing that you’re probably not going to have much of one. There are feelings of abandonment, sorrow, or disillusion surrounding one’s father figure with this placement that need to be worked out. Maybe this is a parent who walked out on the family and never came back. Maybe the father died at some point in your childhood, particularly from some illness or weakness. You can also see a father figure who is struggling with some sort of addiction that becomes very absorbing. But, more commonly, perhaps, is the Dad who is there but not really there: emotionally absent and distant. So, the connection is always fleeting and even when the father is physically present, he is always somehow out of your reach.

But, life is fleeting and if there’s anything that a 12th House Saturn person learns from their father figure, it’s this lesson. I keep talking about being alone but that doesn’t mean that you will literally be alone. You can find a lot of people with a 12th House Saturn who have plenty of friends or a steady relationship. Still, the presence of others does not take away that loneliness, just like the physical presence of the father doesn’t mean that he’s really “there.” In the end, this is what we have to come to grips with, thanks to this placement. I’m not saying that you have to totally isolate yourself. However, in the end, you cannot look to other people to help you with your problems. You have to face them by yourself because the majority of people won’t be able to effectively help, anyway, particularly since your issues are of a more psychological, internal variety.

This is why Saturn in the 12th is one of the toughest placements of all but also one of the most rewarding. We have to develop the strength to face nothingness. There is this deep resistance within many of us with this Saturn to being a “loser” or a “nobody.” Instead of facing our duty to release earthly attachments, we can cling to them and desperately try to make it in the world. On the flip side, we may unconsciously set ourselves up for failure without realizing it. Either way, our Saturn Return in the 12th can bring us situations that make us feel like nobodies or losers, only for us to realize that none of this matters. The 12th House is about loss and Saturn in the 12th means that we have to learn to accept loss, while understanding that the only true losses are material.

So, by detaching from the material plane, we will grasp a greater, deeper sense of purpose on the spiritual plane. Of course, we all have to live and eat and house ourselves. But, with a 12th House Saturn, our purpose in life goes beyond that. We have to find success on spiritual levels. Our anxiety, depression, or just overall sense of melancholy will be managed once we learn that the realm of the spirit is where we’re meant to achieve. With Saturn in this house, we are not just living this one life. We are meant to be constantly prepared for another one. So, we find self-mastery in strengthening our intuition and our trust in the unknown. Time becomes an endless thing to us, transcending days, states of consciousness, identities, and even lifetimes.

It’s no wonder, then, why we can’t really be “helped.” People with Saturn in the 12th cannot seek structure from the day-to-day world, as planets in the 12th House have to be expressed selflessly. And it personally bugs me whenever I see someone protesting that. If you don’t think the 12th House is about being selfless, I’m sorry, you don’t know as much about the 12th House as you think. We have to learn to just give whatever is in the 12th to others, without expectation of it in return. Since you have to master whatever house your Saturn is in, I know this for certain. Somehow, someway, 12th House Saturn people feel like fatherless children. Because of this, we cannot look for that guidance and stability from everyday life. Instead, we have to seek it within or through some solitary pursuit. Then, our cup will be full enough to provide structure to other people and to help guide them toward the purpose and strength they need to be their own boss.

Compassion and empathy are required in order to achieve this. With this placement, I know that it’s easier to try and avoid your sensitivity. But, we have to really use our high sensitivity because the paradox is that it gives us strength. With Saturn in the 12th, we are demanded to find purpose in something that allows us to empathize with and/or heal other living beings. Because of this, we can carve out great careers in the visual or performing arts (a big trend for this Saturn), counseling, medical work (for humans and animals), relief work/charity, or anything spiritual/metaphysical. In some way, we will be able to succeed in work that allows us to exercise an otherworldly touch: through our imagination, our sensitivity, or our intuitive awareness. Yet, more artistic or nonlinear careers have a success rate that can be tough to predict or pin down. So, all of this hard work may not really “pay off” in pragmatic terms until one’s first Saturn Return in the 12th, reinforcing the importance of focusing less on material success and more on internal feelings of success.


  1. I loved this. I have sun in the 12th, squaring saturn, so I relate to the feeling of loneliness and being fatherless.
    I think a trap that anyone with planets in the 12th house can run into (and I certainly do) is to substitute true aloneness with escapism. I spend most of my time alone so I have come to think that I am really good at just being with myself, but in reality, I keep distracting myself, by being on the computer, reading, listening to music - even when I am alone, I'm still not actually with myself.
    I think if the time we spend alone is actually alone time (i.e. just sitting with our thoughts and emotions, journaling, meditation, no technology to distract us) we can recharge a lot better, a lot quicker, and are ready to face the mundane world (6th House) again - because we have properly experienced the 12th House, not somehow avoided the experience.

    1. What happens when saturn is conjunct jupiter in the 12th house?

    2. It's easier for you to find benefits through isolation and selflessness. But, Jupiter can also potentially blow your melancholy and loneliness out of proportion, as it adds excess to whatever it touches. Also, entering this "other realm" makes you feel free and uplifted, so anything spiritual or artistic is bound to be a positive guiding force for you.

  2. Just butting in here to say I love reading your posts, thank you for taking the time to write them! Your personal accounts of placements enhance them wonderfully. This is one of my go-to places when I feel the need to improve my astrological understanding. ^_^

    1. Thank you! I once worried a bit about possibly talking about my chart and myself too often. But, then, I realized that it helps it all relate more. I think when astrologers just totally remove themselves from the subject, it's not as easy for people to connect to.

    2. Definitely! Reading about others' experiences is valuable. I mean, we've all only got one chart, so even the most educated theory about a placement is guesswork/theory unless you've got some firsthand accounts to go off.
      (whoops, clicked 'add comment' instead of 'reply')

  3. My god, I have Saturn in the 12th house too, and you really explained this placement in a way that really puts things into perspective. It can be so lonely having this placement for sure... I do feel misunderstood more often than not, but this post of yours is very much appreciated because well, this is also my go-to blog when I need to learn more about my placements, and I'm thankful for you sharing your findings! I admire your work and you have no doubt made an impact in helping me know and deal with my Saturn in the 12th house better.

  4. I have a 12th house stellium (Saturn included) and 4 planets in Pisces, can really relate to this post! thank you for your much needed insight :)

  5. Sun and moon in the 12th would represent my mother along with Saturn representing my father. My parents where divorced. Narcissistic mother and self absorbed father.
    There's a lot i could say as I've already been through my first Saturn return and half way to my second return but you have covered this so well already.
    I will say I spent several years after my first Saturn return as a hospice volunteer and it was a very beautiful experience. I mostly just sat quietly with my clients in their homes or visited with them while their caretaker left to run errands. It was almost always very peaceful.
    I spend a lot of time at home as I now am my mothers caretaker and enjoy my solitude. I read alot, studying astrology and spirituality. Also just being in nature is very soothing.
    Its been a rough road since childhood and I have had many challenges along the way but so haven't many.
    I accept the lonely, melancholy feelings along with my introverted nature.

  6. My 8 year old son has this. His dad has a brain injury from being blown up in Afghanistan. He doesn't get to have the normal "dad/son" relationship. His Saturn even opposes his Sun and he feels the burden of having to help take care of him.

    He also has Moon in the 12th conjunct his AC (Virgo).

    Ate there any skills or practices I can teach him which will give him more tools to help him with his 12th house?

    1. perhaps encourage his interest in the healing arts (remember the game Operation?), He may have a natural talent in this arena. If not with the human body maybe animals. There a lot of vet shows on TV. See if that sparks an interest. Also, the Good Doctor is a pretty interesting new medical show about an austic man interning as a doctor. Blessings of health to you and your family.

  7. Interesting! I have moon conjunct Saturn in the 12th. My father was largely absent from my life emotionally. My mother died on the youngish side. Both parents worked very hard. What I learned through my research is that the reason a soul picks a chart like this Saturn in the 12th is to realize the Holy Divine Mother and Father is our real source. Blessings to everyone studying astrology!

    1. yes, very good insight. i realized at a young age and had a keep inner knowing/intuition that my physical parents were not my real parents as in not my soul kin. where my soul came from and cut from was of another source. there are different type of beings in a human vessel. this also explained the abuse and abject uncaring which they did not do to eachother and their own 'inner' kind, so to speak. when researching vedic astrology. i found that their gunas were mostly rakshasa (demon class) and my spirituality was mostly deva and human. this explains why they had the evil eye and intentions toward me and spiritually, mentally, physically (means to hurt emotionally) and sexually abusive. they did not do this to my half sister who is also rakshasa similar to them.

  8. Thanks for this wonderful article natal Saturn in 12th house at 14 Capricorn

    Opposite Mars 18 cancer.

    I'm 55 everthing you wrote very much resonate. I appreciate your generous insight l've been reading astrology since mid 90s but your article by far melodically very clear to digest. For me first Saturn return didn't click much just moved after divorce and went back to my old college town still exploring . However something positive happened l never like to read any book no pacience but it was bothering me at the same time l wanted to read books. I'm very curious and love to learn something interesting., l have a LD l learn better by handing me the assignment than lecture. So l was in tharapy for being depressed l told him about it he said to me, what do like , what's your passion and enjoy doing . I said astrology, he said then go buy a book and take the mini steps l ended up purchasing the Sun sign and love signs by Linda Goodman bless her heart she was another poet and love her her stories over the years l have a book library at my living room. also around 91 with transit Neptune and Uranus Saturn all in Capricorn l got divorced and moved to another city with old friend from college....ln my opinion planets/aspects in natal chart has lot to do with how we react to them for some that learned to live with it has much easier time to handle it than for other trying to deal with this past transit of Saturn in Scorpio l didn't feel that fragile is too long to write here all my stories l surrendered to Saturn the second time pass on my sun19 Mercury rx 10 Neptune 10 in Scorpio 9th house and square natal moon 28 conjunct Uranus 26 in Leo l felt finally see what Saturn message was ...a person like me with adhd/l'd my focus is already scattered ....l have to drink camomile several cups and other sleeping aids so l can shut the thoughts because my body wants to sleep but brain runs 400 miles a second. ..ask me what were you thinking....l don't even know specially Uranus hard transit..l have this currently with Mars/Uranus transit double whammy l haven't had sleep since Friday night. So please pardon my writing mistakes. tying with tiny cell words somtimes jump......l don't know what sign your Saturn is in 12th house but mine Capricorn 14 degree t- Pluto tip toeing for 3 years sitting there playing chess l think help me god pluto wants to excavate the root. But for me natal Pluto is familiar in Virgo conjunction natal NN in Virgo trine Saturn in cap...and transit saturn from sag square natal Pluto and NN. I'm very optimistic something good coming out the second return. .......don't even bother with Neptune transit at my south node disolving the past since last year l have been a hermit and lost all my inspiration to finish up my arts and life purpose vanished but optimist at heart l see a tiny light afar ..
    Like many Saturn 12th house
    I had many losses since l was 17 when l left home to study aboard in Us that was last time l saw my parents ...a year later mom passed due to cancer several years later my dad left us too to cancer... happy dad's day!
    For us is easy to drift in our past sad stories...especially transit triggers but what l do accept my losses what you can't bring back is not worth suffering. Instead celebrate their death l grew older my value has shifted to what is matter in life like walking in the park and enjoy the color of the field blue sky and little ravine rate than suffer about some l couldn't do in the past ....Saturn main massage is patience. ...he is here to teach us to use our wisdom.
    Astrology is the map all sign and planets have positive as much as negative you don't have to walk that path you still have a choice. The more you resist the changes happening around you the harder it gets...just know thyself. ..
    Sorry for the lengthy posting
    I will have come back and read your article again and again thank you
    Sending blessings and lights to all

  9. Hi, great article...
    I've Saturn in the 12th house, conjunct with Uranus, and both conjunct with AC and squaring my Sun.
    I'm 28, and I feel loneliness and melancholy since when I was a child, unexplainably.
    I've always felt both my parents absent in my emotional life, many times hostile to me.
    I've always been a loner. I often prefer to be alone.
    Since when the Saturn return is getting closer, loneliness is increasing and I've lost an important fellow and several friends. Sometimes I feel lost, like dead, haunted by fears on my future. I suffer a lot.
    But I know I have a stoic resistance to pain and something spiritual inside me that suggest to me an unconventional life path.

    1. That's definitely what the Saturn Return in the 12th can feel like. But letting go is really our only way of finding stability. Success and status symbols, in the worldly and personal definition, are what we need to let go of. And with Uranus in the mix, your spiritual awareness will give you a sense of being different that gives you more strength and confidence. My Uranus is alao conjunct and astrology does that for me.

      Also, working so hard to evolve spiritually and artistically are the only things that make me feel truly accomplished. The tangible results of those efforts, whether it's money or popularity or praise, are much less of a priority. Because I just know, like I think many of us with this placement know, that I don't get to be invested in the reward. I don't get to live from the ego like many people.

      Trusting in that may help. But good luck with the Saturn Return, whatever happens. Just find your inner peace. That's what Saturn Return in the 12th is for.

  10. What if Saturn is retrograde in 12th house?

  11. Such an inspiration to read this article... Saturn scorpio in 12th house is a such long confused journey for me to figure out what is really going on subconsciously and took me a long time to see the pattern that the impact of my father's role in life structure. I was longing for structure from my father, but he is basically emotionally absent and I was trying so hard to get recognition from him. And the more i did this, the more I got the feeling of being a loser and locked away from my own feelings and emotions.
    I also have noticed that my fear of being criticised from all circumstances. Most of time I would either denial myself first before the judgements reached me, or I would criticise others at first before they have the guts to express their thoughts. That caused my life in chaos at deep level. Learning to know the truth of emotional nature and being aware of the unaware is my daily routine, by doing that, I Slowly get the structure on loneness, compassion starts to blossom because I accept my fear and lose with compassion and time.
    Thanks a lot for posting, I am also looking forward to see your interpretation of Saturn in scorpio or 8th house souls.

  12. I have Saturn(r)in 12H Piceas with Moon and Chiron. The father issue is bang on as with all the fears you described.

  13. Have saturn conjunct uranus in 12. This remind me of Elsa song.

    "The snow glows white on the mountain tonight,Not a footprint to be seen.
    A kingdom of isolation,and it looks like I'm the Queen"

  14. Thank you for sharing Saturn's role in your journey so vividly. My spiritual mentor has Saturn in 12th (in Sagittarius), as does my ex-girlfriend (her Saturn in Aries). This shed a lot of light on their struggles toward mastery.

    As for myself, I can confirm your prerequisite of musical extremes for serenity. Uranus lies in my 12th as well (22' Cap) conjunct Neptune (21' Cap) and my AC (28' Cap). The Pluto-Uranus squares over the past four years have blown the doors of the collective (un)consciousness wide open, largely through manic all-nighters spent devouring astrology. I do believe in free will, but in my quest of divine truth, I've seemed to have little choice in the matter.... Could be a testament to Pluto's pull, but the only saving grace comes through embrace.

    Saturn rules my chart, and although it lies in my 1st house, many of your observations (re: fear of the unseen, unknown & fear itself, irrational anxiety, sense of achievement fleeting if not inward by musical/spiritual means, largely absent-minded experience of father, alone among people, and the need to reflect and recharge in solitude) resonated deeply. My Saturn sits at 00' Pisces, so the manifestation is a little different, but thematically it's very much the same.

    "The collective unconscious is a rich, profound, disturbing, beautiful place, where everything lives and everything dies." Amen, and thanks again.


  15. What about Saturn conjunct venus in libra in 12th house....

  16. WOW.
    This is by far the most thoughtful & accurate on this placement i have read so far; and i am really really interested in especially this placement.
    Saturn conj. Neptune both on 11', with Saturn being chart-ruler (from what I've gathered from your posts our birthdays most be quite close to each other).

    Anyhow, the spiritual depths Saturn opened within me in recent years have been the greatest gift i have ever received - it feels like a big culmination of all my incarnations. (Saturn Uranus Neptune Pluto all Rx)

    I remembered something while reading your article, and that is how last year, when dear Pluto really started guiding me through death & re-birth (it just now crossed my asc.) there was a time where i was just feeling the loneliness and fear and pain in every persons heart, diving deeply into the most basic pain & fear (with help of my pisces moon) there is in the human psyche and soul, the pain of being separated from the divine/god/source, however you want to call it, and it awoke the deepest unconditional love, empathy and compassion for all living beings inside of me.. but only after i was able to completely surrender and die into that feeling, in the deepest core of my soul..

    The whole last year has just been beyond the beyond for me, including questioning and fearing of losing my mind, (and then actually letting it die and dissolve into the depths of the 12th house energy) - the levels of spiritual understanding, love and enlightenment we can reach are beyond anything one can fathom, and our beloved Saturn in the 12th House is our greatest friend in this.
    The responsibility this and Saturn can bring is frightening, but it also is that which helps us become the highest versions of ourselves we can dream of, and way beyond that, on a personal/ego/human as well as on a soul level.

    I am humbled, and so grateful for this placement in my chart, and the aspects Saturn makes (opp. to my sun in 6th, conj neptune and uranus, trine to pluto in 9th)
    Rarely have i ever felt so understood and seen by just one article, that has just a small focus on one astrological placement. wow..

    I am thinking, I dont have any tattoos yet, but on the third time pluto crosses my asc. because of it's rx, and on the exact day of my Saturn return I think I will get them Tattooed, hihi :)

    Thank you so soo much for this, and helping me remember some of the deep experiences I had this last year. They were so many, so intense, and so fast, and on such deep levels of my being, 12th house mh, that I was not even able to record them, because I would have had to write hours each day to cover all the experiences, miracles, blessings, synchronicities and transformations of a single day..

    so, much much love and starlight your way!!
    And thank you for this blog!!

  17. When I read the section about "father" I broke down in uncontrollable tears. This (as I have always known) is my most deep pain in which has triggered my entire adult life experience. As you described, my father left my family when I was 16 years old and graduating early from high school. He was always present in my early childhood life, but never there emotionally, supportively, nor physically at times.

    My Aquarian father was "adored" by all who knew him. He was handsome, looked and acted like James Dean, could dance like no other, awesome at sports (football star, bow-hunter, fishing, softball, golf). He excelled at everything he did. However, he was not a good husband nor a good father. I remember being a child and feeling awkward around him. My tongue would tie and I could not carry on a substantiating conversation with him. I can't remember one "deep" and meaningful conversation that I ever had with him (even as an adult).

    My mother had an incredibly hard time after he left. This happened within a month after she lost her father (my precious grandfather) and I believe she had a non-treated mental breakdown. She was always the parent who kept us all "happy". We weren't permitted to have "bad moods" and she tried her best to pretend that our family was happy. She even tries to tell me that to this day besides the fact of my dad having an issue with alcohol and not coming home many weekends. I remember her putting me and my two sisters in a car on Saturday night driving from bar to bar to find him after he didn't come home on Friday after work. When they divorced, I decided that I did not believe in love and marriage. I prayed to God to give me the strength to live my life independently without the help of a man. (I'm a Saturn/Venus conjunct with Ascendant in 12th house by the way).

    Well, I am soon to be 48 years old. I have raised my daughter as a single parent. I have lived my life independently without assistance from anyone on the most part. I have never been married. When I was younger, I tried to be part of groups, but discovered that I was awkward and people misunderstood me. Another trait that I have gleaned in my study of this placement is having "secret" enemies with older people. Especially men in authority figures. I found this to be true of male bosses that have been critical of my independent masculine qualities. I have had strained relationships with bosses, older male relatives, and most older males who don't find it "appropriate" to be a woman that is as assertive, independent, and ingenious as I am. They have always loved my work and my abilities, but they never wanted to give me any credit as an "equal" per se.

    ... to be continued

  18. .... Continued here:

    My father and I never had the close relationship that I had always hoped for. He came close to dying in 1999 with a massive heart attack in which I drove through an ice storm to be with him. He survived another 9 years before dying suddenly in his sleep. He had just moved back to the area and wanted to forge relationships with his children and grandchildren just months before he died. This gives me some comfort that he finally realized the importance of these relationships. Of course, I don't know if he was trying to heal himself or if he gleaned what his absence did to his daughters?? Now, I'll never know.

    With all of that being said, I am about to go through my Chiron return soon as he just entered my 12th house in Pisces and on his way to Aries in my 12th to meet up with his natal home conjunct Moon. Being aware of the "healing" that needs to be done for me to move forth in life, this is so fitting. My friends and family are amazed at the fact that I have isolated myself and am taking a break from life as I pursue a degree in teaching (Pluto currently transiting my 9th house and approaching MC soon.) I have no desire to be anywhere than at home (preferable in isolation). I don't feel that "counseling" or seeing a professional therapist will do any good. I feel that learning about myself through the tool of astrology to be my best self-healing technique.

    I appreciate your article and appreciate your personal insight as I can certainly relate. It has helped me understand what and why I feel the way I do. I love my dad. He visits me in my dreams (until he told me that he was on his way back to earth through reincarnation and wouldn't be able to talk with me as much). Strangely enough, we are forging a relationship that is closer than the one here on this earth plane from another dimension. I feel he is trying to help me with these struggles and encouraging me to complete my education in order to help pave the way for the educational ascension of many.

    Kind Regards,
    Lori Lotts

  19. I have a 12th house stellium in Capricorn which includes Saturn (and Sun, Venus, Neptune, and North Node - it's a party). Thank you for this post! I grew up fatherless due to alcoholism. I had to mentally "bury" my father in order to cope when I was young. Yet my relationship with my father was a catalyst for my awakening. I know demons but I know angels, too. I know that if you do all things in love and let your inner light shine always, you will be rewarded tenfold (Seriously - you're glowing. Don't let anything or anyone dim your light). Karma - I see you. I understand selflessness and self-undoing. It's a trip!

    I love being alone and am very comfortable in my head. For those with this placement where finding comfort in solitude doesn't come as naturally, ask your angels (spirit guides, guardians, invisible unicorns - whatever aligns with your inner truth) to give you a sign that they are with you. You might just find you're never truly alone after all.

  20. Thank you for this wonderful and extremely validating article. Is a Saturn Return in the 12th different than the "regular" Saturn return? If so, can you please tell me how to calculate that for myself? Thanks again.

  21. I love your blog. Your interpretations are amazing. I hope you will start some online Astrology courses to convey your impressive wisdom to the rest of us ignorants!

  22. I am so surprised to see how planets' energies can affect human behaviour. Your profound knowledge on this placement can be very well related to my life. I can relate to everything you have mentioned especially fears, anxiety, Saturn return, comfort I get from isolation. I feel extremely anxious in crowd or around ppl. I just turned 30 almost over with Saturn return in Scorpio from 12th house to Saturn transit in Sagittarius in my ascendant. Such an excellent article on Saturn in 12th house.

  23. Wow... I just really want to thank you for this.

  24. thank you so much for writing this. I've spent a year alone trying to overcome my aversion to being alone vs. my constant loneliness. Also to heal my feelings of rejection from my father-which were largely within my own mind I discovered. I have saturn in the 12th and every single thing you discussed is my experience as well. thank you.

  25. Thank you for this excellent post. It explains a lot of what I've gone through in the past 2 to 3 years (born 1966, I'm now 51). I'm just now starting to delve more deeply into my natal chart for guidance through mid-life issues and changes. I have Saturn conjunct my Ascendant in Pisces in the 12th. It's been challenging, getting out of denial and opening myself to acceptance about being alone.

  26. Thank you so much for sharing this Wayman. Scorp sun, leo moon, I have saturn in aries in 12th conjunct ascendant in aries, yikes! lol I've experienced everything you described. Throughout my life the veil between worlds has been thin and then disappeared into the vastness of eternity, no time, the challenge of a living paradox. What I've learned is that I am whole, part of everything and that isolation, separation, is a belief/illusion of the mind. Whatever the question, one truth, feeling love, being love, is the answer. Epic article!

  27. I though both your post were wonderful in that they explained my situation so well it was scary. I’m not greatful for this combination. It has meant nothing but pain, being taken advantage of and loneliness while others less deserving get what they want or have made my life a misery. I have gone non contact with my family after years of being lied to, belittled and ignored depending on the mood they were in or what they needed at the time. I know I have helped others because I have had many former students tell me, and this does make me happy for them. But I’m exhausted and tired of being invisible and having to do it all alone. I just don’t get life. I roll with the punches and take one careful step at a time, while still trying to treat others with respect and kindness. What else can you do but try to reflect the best of humanity when you have been so little of it yourself? The worst part is being made to feel you have bought it on yourself when, in reality, it’s just your path. I prefer to be on my own now. I’ve been let down too often. It’s just easier to let it all float over and by so you don’t dwell.

    1. My god I know the feeling of everything you just said, more than ever lately as I go through this Saturn return thing. You either get it or you don't. Thanks for sharing Celeste.

  28. I literally got goosebumps reading this. Estranged from my family (my mother's side) makes it hard for me to trust. I had to let that relationship go due to the fact they found pleasure in making miserable most up until my teens when I decided I had enough, geting into trouble just to be out of the house, but then that made them think I was even more of a terrible person, when in fact all I wanted was positive support in my life. Which they were unable to provide. It set me up for a life of contentment with being isolated. I chose my path, but it really hits me hard thinking all the hurt and deciet was meant for me to come out a stronger person. My saturn return when i was 29 or 30 was my awakening. Since then I have let bygones be just that. I no longer seek out negative attention. I no longer dwell on the fact I will never have a relationship with my birth mother. I find strong, loving, accepting females to bond with and help guide me. I am thankful for all the lessons I needed to be taught because its going to help me in my chosn career. I have first hand experience. Thank you.

  29. THANK YOU! Such an insightful & helpful sharing coming at exactly the right time for me. I feel grateful.

  30. Hi Wayman! Do you have a Facebook account? I would like to follow your posts but didn’t see you on FB,

  31. This is the most in depth explanation I have read on being a 12th house Saturn dweller. Thank you for this!

  32. This is a great article.
    How would having Mars and Pluto in the 12th house as well affect Saturn?

  33. Thank you very much for the article. I've got Saturn in the 12th house and this explanation is truly insightful.

  34. Thank you so much for this Wayman. I absolutely love your erudite and articulate work. I have just found out my Sagittarius Sun opposing Saturn in Gemini (my ascendant) in the 12 house, is the central axis in a kite formation in my chart, and the release point of a grand air trine, also involving my moon in Aquarius. Very powerful and intense stuff, that has taken me half a life time, and a lot of challenge, to unravel and embrace. In fact I am still trying to understand it, and am considering studying Astrology myself. My dad, who was a huge influence on me as a child, dropped out of my life at 19 and I've hardly seen him since. He was an artist, who inspired and drove my desire from birth to be an artist too. I have always known this is who I am. It is my gift, I love it and am very good at, but it has also been a struggle to persevere with, and find my confidence, grounding and direction in, without my dad's guidance and support. I have stayed dedicated to it, because I know it is my way of giving love to the world. What you say about 'accepting the fact that you’re always going to feel alone, you’re going to clear the way and develop the strength to “pass away” into this other realm, where great spiritual wisdom, artistic inspiration, and universal empathy lie' is absolutely profound for me, as I also have a Capricorn North Node, and have had a lot of healing to do around my family to find and embrace this purpose, which has come through facing my own death in a very real way through breast cancer. Joy and true connection and authenticity in my life, comes from my dedication to, and sharing of, the depth and insights of my experience in facing death and loss.

  35. What does it mean if I have Saturn conjunct sun, Ketu(south node), and mars?

  36. Hey there! Aries Sun with Aquarius rising here,Saturn in Capricorn in XII house,actually having Saturn return right now.(first one)
    Everything you've written is a spot on,but I must say having Saturn in it's own sign eases up things. I never feared being alone and that was something that actually attracted my partners to me. That courage. And yes there is some unexplained anxiety. Right now on my return some chapters are ending and some people are leaving but I accept that. Also I'm a vettech my connection with animals is beyond amazing (also have moon in Taurus very strongly placed,lord of the 6th). I'm also LGBT/Human/Animal rights activist. Anyways,great article! :)

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  38. Thank you. I appreciate your ability to articulate. I've got Saturn in Cap in 12th. Having a Saturn return this year. As a modern mystic (intuitive astrologer) my life has been about service. So as I delve into my Return year, I'm asking how ELSE I might serve... Jupiter in the 12th too, Angels abound. Bless, Elaine

  39. Wow, just wow. You nailed it. Only someone with this placement could have been so accurate in ALL OF the feelings.

  40. Feel Very depressing & lonely with this placement
    Low self confidence & low self esteem. Even in a crowd one is alone so I consider this as the worst placement in the chart.

  41. I only recently discovered astrology and started to read about having Saturn in the 12th House (with Capricorn Ascendant). This article is so relevant to me now. My dad left when I was 5 and I struggled through my adolescence and early adulthood trying to be the person other people wanted me to be. I had no spiritual belief or experience until a random encounter with a spiritual teacher when I was 26 gave me a glimpse of the Spiritual dimension of life. My attempts to create happiness for myself through my career and social life created so much stress that I couldn't continue and fell from one career path to another, like falling down a mountain. Aged 28 I left my job and went to live at home with my mum. I had intended to do this for a month or two and ended up staying for 2.5 years, having almost no contact with anyone except her and one close friend. I was so overloaded with anxiety and was having intense spiritual and energetic experiences, along with painful physical experiences as my skeleton began to crack open, as though I'd been locked in a shell all my life and something in me was finally breaking out.

    Over the past couple of years I've been slowly and carefully integrating myself back into society. I moved to a new city and found a job as a carer. It's the lowest paid and lowest status of the health professions I know of. I had been training to be a doctor, then clinical psychologist, then psychological researcher, so these changes in social status feel like continued drops as my false way of finding happiness collapsed around me.

    When I began having spiritual experiences one of the first things that happened was a telepathic communication within me that said I was living this life to be a teacher and leader of men. My time in isolation has connected me with myself, allowing me to be emotionally sensitive and open for the first time that I can remember. I feel the pain of men who are locked within themselves, unable to connect with the deeper reality that they are - blocked from their emotions and living life in their own shadow. I have been birthing from that state of half-living into something open and free. Very recently I have been connected with men's groups that seek to promote the emotional welfare of men - being a peer supporter and mentor for young offenders.

    The first article I read about Saturn in the 12th House mentioned nothing about the relationship with the Father and how the life purpose of the native is to evolve by being the father they didn't have. I see this as being such a subtly layered relationship. It is not only the relationship between our human self with our parental father, but also our relationship between our own unique identity and the Father, that is God. In being abandoned and alone we discover within ourselves the very father we had always been without. Desperation turns us to find ourself. It's a brutal journey, but I feel one that leads to exceptional rewards. Saturn isn't our enemy. Let's make him our beloved companion and allow his fierce love orient us to our highest truth.

    Good luck fellow Saturn in 12th's. Crack yourselves open and spill out into Life.