Thursday, February 9, 2017

Open Discussion: Your North Node Lessons



So, I used to do those Ask Me Anything sessions and I stopped doing them once I realized that it was really exhausting to interpret all of those questions at once. But, I still do want to regularly do something that allows me to connect with you guys. So, I am starting a thing called “Open Discussions” where I will propose a topic and leave the comments open for a few days for a discussion where we can all talk about said topic.

Keep in mind, this is not the time for me to answer questions. You asking me a specific question about your chart will have to be ignored because it only opens the floodgates for everyone to ask me questions about their chart. I have stopped doing that on here, the majority of the time, unless it just happens really organically. Otherwise, that is just like a mini-reading for me. It’s work.

Instead, the purpose of the Open Discussion is a chat between us and not just between you and me. You guys can feel free to talk amongst yourselves about this topic. And hopefully, we can make this a regular thing and I can give you guys an outlet to just talk, instead of simply responding to my articles. I do notice that, in your responses, you all have some excellent stories to tell and I would love to hear them and talk to you about it.

The first Open Discussion’s theme is Your North Node Lessons. You should know that the North Node is a primary challenge in our lives. You also probably know how important and crucial I consider the North Node. It’s not something that we are learning to “become” but it is more so something about ourselves that we are being awakened to and learning to embrace, develop, and focus on. But, in the midst of that, we do end up learning a lot.

So, the question for this round is “What has your North Node taught you?” You could focus on general experiences or recent things that have happened. Also, of course, state what house and sign you have your North Node in.

It wouldn’t be fair if we did this without me participating and I plan on starting off every Open Discussion with my own story. In terms of my North Node in Aquarius and in the 1st House, I have learned something major very recently: people really love to tell you who they think you are and how right or wrong you are and I just have to not give a damn about that. Of course, if it’s a serious situation where I’m in the wrong, then I should stop and reflect and figure out if I’ve actually caused some damage and what I should do in order to improve things.

But, otherwise, you just shouldn’t care, especially when it’s something that affects you and only you. A part of me has always stood by the whole thing of “I don’t need to care what others think”. However, I have learned the importance of that lately in a significant way. I shared with you all a couple months or so ago that I decided to rectify my birth chart and that I felt like I was more of an Aquarius Ascendant. I listed all of the reasons for that in that article and I felt very good about my decision because it felt like, somehow, I was on the right track toward stronger and more accurate self-awareness, which is the whole reason you should have birth chart rectification done anyway. Instinctively, it’s something that feels right.

It's also the purpose of my 1st House North Node – to be more in tune with your truth as an individual and insist on it – and with it being in Aquarius, I should be doing so in a more unconventional, think-outside-of-the-box way. So, getting my birth chart rectified seemed to make sense, in that route. I had many supportive responses from those who I shared it with but there were a few people who disagreed with me. This is ultimately fine because everyone doesn’t have to agree with me. However, it’s the way they disagreed with me that was off-base.

One commenter gave a very lengthy response as to why I was wrong, telling me that all those things I’ve said about my chart before must have been contradictions. I ultimately agreed because this is human nature: we can contradict ourselves and see ourselves in ways that aren’t entirely accurate. Then, she proceeded to tell me I was making a mockery of astrology. Mind you, this is not me saying that there are 14 signs or that Jupiter is the ruler of Libra or anything like that. It’s not me changing the concept of astrology. It’s me saying that I think that, for the purpose of my own development, I needed to consider the fact that my birth time or my chart could’ve been off. This is something that only has to do with me and only affects me. Why are you so upset?

So, I told her how ridiculous she was being, that she needed to calm down, and that if she had that much of a problem with my practices, she could find another blog to read. Also, I love astrology and it helps me and others so much. But, it’s just not that serious, honey. So, you can complain about me desecrating this sacred art somewhere else. Then, a while later, some other commenter went even further. She not only agreed with the first one and told me I was wrong, she called me a liar and told me to stop plagiarizing other people’s work. This is where I really did a double-take and just had to laugh. Apparently, all of that time I’ve been spending these past few years writing my own articles, thinking they were original, I’ve actually been telepathically stealing other people’s work, without even knowing it. Who would’ve thought I had that kind of a gift!

Plagiarism is very easy to prove these days. There is one person on Tumblr who posted Jan Spiller’s North Node book word for word and people always comment about that. If I ever plagiarized anyone’s work, I would’ve been called out for it sometime in the past three years. The person went on to say that they had screenshots that they were going to send to the authors I stole work from. Oh, no! I’m in big trouble now! I basically told this person – who was also arguing with me about my rectified chart and was seemingly a long-time reader but, now, wanted to call me out for being a liar – that they were out of their minds and if they commented again, I would block them. In fact, I may or may not have told both people that they could go fuck themselves. It got a little heated, so I deleted that string of comments off my page, just to not keep that energy there.

I usually get along very well with my commenters, even the ones who don’t agree with me. But, don’t bring your stupidity, insanity, or misplaced outrage to my blog for silly reasons because it’s not welcome and I’m not going to pretend to care about it, either. And just yesterday, I had another person, online, trying to tell me that I was wrong about my rectified chart, that I was probably actually a progressed Aquarius Ascendant, and that I’m only lying to myself and wanting to feel special and basically a fraud. This is coming from a person who has only spoken to me online without having even met me or seen my picture. Even when I told him that, no, I think it’s more than the progressed Rising sign (which I considered) because it runs so deep and has been present my whole life, he thinks he has the right to tell me who I am. I wasn’t having it then, either.

That is basically the gist of all of these critics. They thought that they could define me and tell me who I am and tell me that I’m “wrong” about myself. They thought that their misinformed or misguided opinions of me actually create me and they don’t. For any North Node in the 1st House person, it’s very much about seeing yourself through your own eyes, not other people’s eyes. I know I’m not a fraud (by the way, it’s ironic that such a thing could be said because there are people out there who believe that all astrologers are frauds, whether you rectify your chart or not). I know my posts are totally original and un-plagiarized. And I know that the choice that I’ve made to rectify my chart feels more accurate, in many ways. It also seems like it may have helped a few people who have been taught to blindly believe their birth certificate without questioning if things may be off.

I know all of these things because I’m getting increasingly in touch with myself, instinctively and outside of people’s projections. I also know that there are many people out there who support my decisions. These are just three examples, while everyone else was encouraging. Still, what my North Node keeps teaching me is getting everyone to agree with you, having everyone like you or support your decisions, is exhausting and futile. At times, you just have to let people be pissed off at you, letting them think you’re lying, let them think they know you better than you know yourself because, in the end, none of that matters much in the big-picture scheme (Aquarius). Embracing that mentality requires plenty of bravery on my part but it also feels very rewarding as a result.

So, let me hear from you about one of your North Node experiences or lessons (although, of course, don’t feel compelled to write the essay I’ve written here). I'll try to do this weekly or bi-weekly, so if you miss this open session, there will be another one for you to join in on.

The thread is now closed. Thanks to all of those who contributed and I look forward to seeing you in the comments again! 

Wayman





71 comments:

  1. I also have NN in First house in Leo. And my family have been telling me that I was something I wasn't for most of my childhood (I'm 17 now) it was really annoying. For example, being told that I was quiet and introverted even tho I wasn't (not that there's anything wrong with introverts). And it was also annoying when I would try to speak up for myself but they would essentially shut me down. Plus, I am a bit of a goody-goody. I never got angry or threw tantrums as a kid. Nor was I disobedient. And as a teen, I never rebelled. I kind of just went along with whatever I was told to do. My AC is Cancer but I always felt more like a Leo. I used to wanna be an actress when I was little, but now I don't think I have what it takes. And I never trust my heart, which is an Aquarius SN thing. I don't really think I've learned any lessons yet, but I am trying to express myself more.

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    1. I felt the same thing growing up! I think the North Node in the 1st is about learning that you don't always have to be "good". It's a people pleaser thing.

      But hey maybe you've gotten farther with your NN than you realize.

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  2. I thought for years that my NN was in the Tenth house, until I discovered that it's actually in the Eighth. Leo, in the Eighth house. Nodal lessons? Much of my academic work is about a redefinition of sexuality and sexual expression. I butt heads with professors who want to try to steal the credit for my work ("I taught her that, she did that work in MY class, she's one of MY best student, etc"), and I've had to fight internally for many years to feel worthy of my own creative expression. I think, also pertinent to the NN discussion, is the fact that my Sun is conj. my SN in Aquarius, and the Sun being Leo's planet, it makes for an interesting ping-pong back and forth. So, not just redefining sexuality, but revolutionizing it. Lately, my biggest challenge has been to reach out to others (Eighth House) for help without sacrificing my own sense of resourcefulness and self-sufficiency (Second House Sun). Business is the next big thing, and it's been in the works for several years. Right as Jupiter went Rx I realized that I'm not going to get anywhere without learning how to delegate. I tend to attract a great many Eighth House people, and so that's helped me get to know the benefits and drawbacks of Pluto/Scorpio energy. Finally, coming to terms with my own powers of psychological seduction has been a big lesson. Not that I have them, though that HAS been a lesson, but also how to be responsible, compassionate, and not get power-hungry. This lesson has occurred through many repeated losses (Eighth House) but also through a development of a healthy self-love practice. Learning how to manage being super sensitive to sexual energies as they are exchanged between people in what otherwise appears to be a platonic encounter has also been a lesson, as has learning how to develop energetic boundaries and a sense of sexual discrimination. Finally, I never feel desire for something that isn't catalytic in some way. If there's a promise of transformation, I am far more intrigued than if I see something that is basically stable and unchanging. I use my desire and the strong emotions that sexual feelings that arise when I want something to propel me into personal transformation and empowered self-expression.

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    1. couple of typos there, sorry about that.

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    2. No worries about the typos! But, the North Node in the 8th always sounds so interesting because it has to truly be about deep transformation and with it being in Leo, this empowerment is how you'll be able to find your star quality! And I feel like the Sun conjunct the South Node in Aquarius means that you have a natural self-confidence and charisma but this ironically happens when you're not "on stage" and/or not worried about others' perceptions of you.

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  3. I have NN in Leo in 12th house and whenever I'm expressing oneself by dancing or putting on a show for people to watch, I somewhat don't realize what I'm doing. It rarely happens because I still don't feel too comfortable doing it altought I would like to be confident enough to stand in the spotlight more.

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    1. Congratulations on your nodes return this year.

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    2. Yes, congrats! It sounds like that combination kind of makes you go into a "trance" when performing, like you're transcending everyday life to access that special side of yourself.

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    3. Mr. Stewart, do you think when one having NN in Leo should be a bit self center (more of ME ME ME)?

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    4. Wow, that's a great observation! I have my NN in the 12th house as well (although mine's in Cancer) and I can really relate to what you said about not realizing what you're doing right till after it's done. It really hits that 12th-6th opposition well. Like, having a 6th house SN I get really anxious and want to work things out and make stuff happen, but really... my most fulfilling moments are when I literally forget to do that and stuff just... happens.

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    5. Didi, how can I find out when the nodes return is?

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  4. It's been hard for me, because I have NN in Cancer in the 10th house, while SN is Capricorn in 4th. That balance that you have to find is really difficult, it's like the ultimate career vs. family thing that threatens to rip your gut out, because you end up being miserable either way you go about it. It's like that classic "darned if you do" and "darned if you don't" thingy...Eventually, I think that one with this placement has to realize that either you have to have a successful career to take care of your family, but being too involved in success will make you forget about your family! So, paradoxical realization, anyone?

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    1. Oh, it definitely is. I remember that I wrote a whole explanation of that very combination in the comments on my North Node in Cancer article, replying to someone else's question. So, I'll just copy and paste that here to hopefully help:

      Yeah those flipped Nodes can be confusing alright! But its in these instances where you really see that the NN sign controls and dominates the NN house. The NN sign is what you need to do and the NN house is how you need to do it.

      In your case, the 4th House Capricorn SN shows that you come from a background where emotion, vulnerability, childishness were frowned upon. Your family didn't make you feel safe. But that in and of itself - that insistence on being self sufficient - is your comfort zone and prevents you from truly achieving your true ambitions.

      You're the manager of your family and that is so demanding that it actually makes you more co-dependent than you realize. So you are focusing on dealing with your actual emotions and needs by pursuing goals outside of your personal life. You take responsibility by knowing what you need and dedicating yourself to being the kind of authority figure to yourself that you always needed. This will allow you to be a nurturing boss for others and not stay stagnant in that mode of cold caregiving.

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    2. I also have my NN in the 10th in Aries and SN in Libra, still didn't know exactly what that means. I think I have to learn to be a little more selfish and care more about myself, I'm always putting others needs before my owns, trying to make everybody happy, neglecting my own desires. When I try to put me first, I feel really guilty afterwards.

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  5. My North Node is in an intersect house, my first house is in Capricorn second house in Pisces, every time when I read about my north node in Aquarius I feel as they are saying that I am an a$$hole, very depressing.

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    1. Haha, aw, you mean an asshole because of your South Node in Leo or because of the North Node in Aquarius? Don't be depressed because that's not what it means! Yet, it does mean that you have to learn to get over yourself, in one way or another.

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  6. Hi, I think you are soing a great job! And i look forward to your posts. I dig the kinda new age psychological outlook in my own life although I am nt really a candidate since I am older. Keep up the good work and keep looking👀.
    My nn is taurus ninth house and I dont know what it means,except that I need to get more money...butI am looking for direction abou this as one of my children has nn taurus eleventh house.

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    1. You should check out my article on the North Node in Taurus then, if you haven't already. :)

      http://astroarena12.blogspot.com/2016/02/north-node-in-taurus-grounded-soul_23.html

      And I think everyone is a candidate for a New Age mindset, if you're open enough and willing enough.

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  7. I have my North Node in the fourth house Scorpio, and i was thinking that a relationship would agree with that aspect but no. In fact, i realizei that i was taking the front of a convencional situation and try to Command a family Just Like a Taurus on tenth would do. Finally when my girlfriend Cheated on my a few monte before i ask her to move with me, i finally understood that my North Node isnt about forming family (She has a daughter) but follow a intimate Path even when that means rum solo but not against my heart (i restored my inner Power after that, and learn even more about selfrespect).

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    1. Oh, I'm sorry about that! I feel like the Taurus South Node makes you really, really stuck in situations that feel comfortable but that ultimately need to change. And it takes a huge push for you to change. It's often why the Scorpio North Node stirs up a bit of drama in your life or takes things away from you because you need that emotional shock to be able to pull yourself out of that rut.

      But, the great thing is that the more empowered you are via the Scorpio North Node, the stronger your Taurus South Node's self-esteem will genuinely be, instead of hanging on to things that give you a false sense of security or pleasure.

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  8. Noth Node 5th House Taurus. Although that's with Placidus. If you use equal houses [I do sometimes play around with that system] it's in the 6th. To be honest both interpretations make sense to some degree.

    Regardless of the house placement, my SN is in Scorpio and has Saturn conjunct it, so I tend to get pulled back there a lot. Not a particularly healthy place to dwell for too long, although there's a lot of uses to it.

    My NNode is one of only two points in my chart that's in an Earth sign - the other one is Neptune in Capricorn which is not much help in terms of staying grounded - so trying to cultivate some more Earth energy is key to my internal stability.

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    1. Saturn being on top of the South Node is really tough. It looks like you already went through your Saturn Return. So, do you think that this made a huge difference in how your South Node manifests?

      Have we talked about this already, by the way? I'm pretty good at remembering people's charts and I remember you saying something about dealing with the aftermath of your Saturn Return in relation to the NN.

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    2. Hi SD,

      I would really like to talk to you, because it looks like we almost have exactly the same chart! Also struggling with the same placements, even though after the Saturn Return to a lesser extent.

      It was me, Wayman, you did the chart of. That's why it sounds so familiar :).

      Best regards,
      Nanda

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  9. I have a Libra North Node in 9th House (with Aries South Node in 3rd), and I think the major lesson for me is to never be afraid to learn from others. I was pushed to do well academically in grade school, so I always felt like I had to be the best in terms of marks. I would freak out whenever I got a low grade, or get jealous when someone would get a question right in class. This competitive (Aries) attitude towards my education (3rd House) led me to resent my classmates, and not think highly of them.
    My attitude changed when I came into high school, when I learned that my classmates shared similar insecurities as me. I eventually learned that there was more to me and others than our grades, and that everyone has something more to say. I found that I gained a higher wisdom (9th House) when I was relating to others (Libra). This attitude was expanded in university where everyone was more open about their hopes and insecurities. I learned so much more about myself and the world around me when I stop comparing my intelligence to others.
    University (9th House) has also helped me open up more and establish more solid relationships between friends, classmates and even my significant other (Libra). I used to be a loner in grade school, and not put a lot of thought into friendships. But I saw the value of meaningful relationships when it helped boost my academic prowess and improve my well-being. I still push myself to do the best I can in university, but I remind myself that we're all on the same page!

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    1. Hey, yeah, whatever's in your 9th House really comes out in a strong way during college. I think people with a 9th House North Node are kind of lucky in that sense because they have a chance to get a head start on their NN's during the college years.

      I have Aries on my 3rd House cusp, by the way (and also Mercury conjunct Mars) and I can relate to the competitiveness in school. Well, I was that way during elementary school. I remember one of my teachers always giving us word searches to do in class and I always loved being the first one to finish. But, I got more headstrong as I got into middle school and older and I stopped caring so much about the classroom, even though I could've performed better academically.

      It makes sense, though, that this was a major problem for you as this is the South Node we're talking about. Do you have siblings and did you ever feel extra-competitive with them, as well?

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    2. I also have Aries on my 3rd House cusp, and Pisces Mercury conjunct Pisces Mars (though it's in Orb 8, which might be pretty loose). I'm an only child, so there was quite a bit of pressure for me to do well. I was in an advance placement program in high school, and I made honour roll for all four years of high school. I'm also studying Life Sciences at a prestigious university, so I'm pretty well off academically speaking. However, I find a lot more satisfaction through learning from and about others rather than a mark on a test or assignment. I'm not slacking off, but I have to learn that a grade doesn't define your intelligence or your self-worth (my Mercury and Mars are in 2nd house btw).

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    3. Oh, nice. Yeah, in a way, I often felt like an only child (I was the youngest by a wide age gap and the only child of both of my parents). I was very self-reliant/independent. I agree with you, though, about learning to not be so hung-up on the grade, although that seems like it's becoming a general problem in schools as time goes on.

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  10. Wayman, I really appreciate your being so kind to your readers and always trying to find things to interact with them.
    I only understand my NN in 3rd house (to be a student) only when I became a teacher (SN in 9th house). I agree with you when you say in your articles that NN is allowed only after late 20s. My NN is in Capricorn. I also learned that being successful means being alone, but thats OK.

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    1. Yeah, it wasn't until I was around 25 or 26 that I really started to get the message. I also remember that when transiting Saturn in Scorpio was square my North Node (which was actually when I was 25), it was coming in pretty loud and clear. And it's also why I think the NN is square my Midheaven (Saturn was conjunct the MC at that time). It seems like other people can be successful while still indulging in their SN. But, for me, it's pretty much impossible. I can't get anywhere without living out my NN.

      But, yeah, I think you have to figure out how to not be so emotionally dependent and being alone can be part of it. It can be that whole "it's lonely at the top" cliche but maybe North Node in Capricorn people are just much better equipped than most to handle that, as soon as they let go of their neediness.

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  11. I have my NN in leo (intercepted) in the 7th house and I really don't know what to think about it... I don't really feel like it taught me something, or that the NN is that important... (I also have Mercury and Venus in Leo in the 7th)

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    1. It is. It's just that, at the age you're at right now, it's not that important to you and you don't really understand it. Are Mercury and Venus conjunct, by the way? If so, that can speed up the process of you getting there.

      The good thing is that you're about to have your first North Node Return and this always provides you with a chance to "open the door" and tap into your North Node's potential. Something really pivotal usually happens during these years that can start awakening that side of you. For me, with my NN in Aquarius, when I was 18 and having my Return, I discovered what astrology really meant and had my birth chart done and that has played a significant part in my NN journey to this day.

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    2. No however my Mercury is conjunct my NN and Saturn is making a square !

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    3. Oh, and I also have Uranus in the 1st house, maybe that's why I have difficulties relating to my LeoNN

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  12. Sending BIG love your way Wayman. Your work is intuitive and it feels right on. Truly amazing. There are not many sharing the way you do so Thank you!! I've got no action in my first house so I can only imagine what that feels like. I Have NN in Virgo - 6th house (I think). All my beginner Pisces soul can say is that I feel like I am continually being called to the Principal's office and I do NOT want to go there. Bleh! (I apologize to all you fabulous Virgo folk).

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    1. Hahah, well, I have three planets in Virgo and one of them is most likely conjunct your NN, so maybe I can help! :) I know of a couple of Virgo North Nodes and I am always acting as an influence that straightens them out and helps them see things clearly.

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    2. Wonderful news as I am already in your queue for some readings. 😀

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  13. Thank you for making this possible. I have Libra north node in the 12th house. Its very difficult for me to understand my NN. Instinctively I do what I want (Aries) in a continued effort (6th house) towards my goals. After many lonely years and after failing and failing on my objectives, I realized that I actually need people in my life, and that its possible to cooperate in order to reach something.

    As of late I learned how arrogant I could be, and how set in my ways. I am now striving for change, struggling to keep a positive outlook in life. I wouldn't call it faith, but its getting there. I believe my mission is to heal the sick and troubled (I'm studying medicine), and let go of preconceptions and fears and old ways that restrict my freedom.

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    1. That's a very compassionate, thoughtful combination! You're really meant to give to others and you really have to figure out selflessness and being considerate.

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  14. I have North Node in Scorpio in the 3rd house, and I have learned to not take things at face value, to check the facts, to embrace sexuality, how to connect with my siblings, and to let go of things that weigh me down or take up too much space.

    With the North Node in Scorpio in the 3rd house, I've learned about things that I believe my soul in a previous life incarnation never would have fathomed of learning: witchcraft, psychology, sexuality, death, tarot cards, palmistry, Vedic astrology, and various types of communication.

    I believe that connecting with others, sharing myself intimately, and learning to listen (3rd house) has helped me to transform (Scorpio) and to move beyond a lofty, philosophical (9th house), mundane existence (Taurus).

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    1. Awesome! I think Scorpio is one of the best placements for the North Node. With it being in the 3rd, I also think that you are sharpening your mental faculties and figuring out how to really get to the bottom of information. I think the Taurus South Node in the 9th makes it all too easy for you to fall back on beliefs because they're comfortable. But, your North Node wants you to not be simple-minded, to always do your research/fact-checking, and to be curious enough to figure out if more is going on than meets the eye.

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  15. I have North Node in Virgo in the 5th House, which I think is about taking the ideals and dreams coming from the Pisces 11th South Node, and finding practical, yet creative ways to make them a reality :D

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    1. Oh, cool. I know someone with that placements and he is so compassionate to everyone and gives so much to these friends who come in and out of his life that he ends up getting taken advantage of quite easily. He's actually into astrology and I've told him this before. So, you could also benefit from setting more boundaries with the people you befriend and be more discriminating in a way that will serve you and make you feel more confident.

      I've also found that Virgo North Node people, unless they have Virgo planets in their chart/on the North Node, can be confusing af. Haha, the Pisces South Node makes you guys so nonlinear or vague in a way that can frustrate my Mercury conjunct Mars in Virgo, even though I'm very Neptunian myself.

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  16. So I have my NN in Pisces, in the 10th house, south node in virgo. It should also be noted that my moon is in Aquarius which sits in the 9th house next to my mid-heaven. With a Gemini rising and my sun on the cusp of Virgo and Libra. Libra by one degree. So with all that said I feel like I am constantly reaching for my dreams TO CHANGE the world! I'm going to be somebody! right from my heart I want to help heal this world. However I can't tell what keeps me flowing between the real physical world and the spiritual world. It's a constant push and shove. I am more comfortable in what is called "coyote time" which is when I allow my intuition to rule my every move. When I slow it all down and I stop moving at the pace of the world. I'm especially struggling this year in college. It's my first time at a university and while I absolutely carve and want to expand my mind, the rate at which it comes in makes me extremely uncomfortable. I can handle the pressure, however, I do have to focus extra hard and make my school work as creative and fun as I can. With the virgo SN and the fact that the moon sits in the 10th house (so I also Identify with the cancer NN and Cap SN) I have a natural nack for building structures. and if you asked me if I can see shapes or colors better it would be shapes. My mother was VIRGO VIRGO VIRGO, if fact I think she had a total of 6 Virgo signs. She loved small portions and to Keep everything extra clean. Lately with school being so hectic, my world at home is a mess and its DIVING ME CRAZY!!!!!!! I want so badly to be FREE! I am constantly struggling with the idea of having a family. I can hear my children in the spirit world calling for me, however, that requires MORE structure! ITS A FIGHT! I am definitely a mother, so much so that the universe has thrown me a boyfriend with a daughter. Since I have refused so long to have my own the universe has given me one. I love her so MUCH! So even with my current transition into the mother from the maiden, it's very fresh and I am at heart still the playful maiden. I feel in my past life that I was also a mother and that I probably had to stay at home under the rule of a man. While I still LOVE keeping a home and I do, do all the cooking I am still that free spirit of the NN and my Moon. When I fantasize about being happy I'm always dancing out in the open, with a beautiful green scene, listen to the music of the world. Of course my favorite friends are there and we are having the best party. I feel like this like is all about my own originality and building my own dream. It's not anyone else's, just some of my friends and family want to come along for the ride. I have to be careful that I am not put under anyone else's authority, because I truly suffer from not being able to be my own boss. I am a self employed massage therapist. I am throwing myself back in school because I am absolutely DETERMINED to be a naturopathic doctor that educates the american people and the rest of the world how to care and feed themselves, and their children. I WILL SAVE LIVES! One last thing, I'm also a New Orleans GAL! It's soooooooo hard to leave home! I fantasize about it everyday however, with the power that this place has over me it's so hard to get out. This city needs me and I need it, however, I have to grow and I will escape!!!! I will make my grand escape and get to know the rest of the world. I'm going to learn how to be more spiritual, have my babies, cure cancer and dance dance dance!!! WHOOOOOOO cheers to life!!!!!!!!!

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  17. sorry, I originally put that my moon was in 9th (I did correct myself at some point), however it's actually in the 10th. Most of the Aquarius is in the 9th with a wee bit in the 10th.

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  18. Should I mention my Libra in mercury to add weight to my sea-saw!? and how about that Jupiter in the first house. GEEZ! Talk about a life of expansion. It's almost too much. More family, more knowledge and more power (wielded in the right way of course ;))

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    1. It's interesting that your mother has many planets conjunct your South Node. It sounds like you will have to definitely work through certain elements of your relationship with her that hold you back.

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  19. NN in Leo in 10th house - I learned to love myself, to value myself, to be special, not to be afraid to be different and to be noticed, to leave the Matrix :) I learned it's not about the others, it's about me. My life is all about me - not my ego, but my soul. It was not an easy process, but very difficult and painful. And the most interesting thing is that when I felt my NN, I started to feel my Sun/Pluto energy in very conscious way. I feel contented for the first time but I don't feel challenged anymore and I'm starting to get bored. Hope NN return will bring me something new...

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    1. It sounds like a lot of Leo North Nodes are chiming in. Good luck on your upcoming Return! :)

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  20. Hmm, I have NN in the 8th in Pisces and I feel like I have experienced this position and it`s lessons especially in my darkest moments where there have been all sorts of hardships and have literally felt like lost my own power. On those phases I have tried my all to have control over things, hiding my own feelings from myself and others, convinced that I can handle everything on my own and listen to reason instead of my heart ( sigh..SN Virgo) Though some of those actions have been beneficial, the feeling of “let go, and trust the Universe” have just increased to me over the years. (Plus this the deep yearning for listen to my intuition and connect to spiritual realm have increased although I don’t know if it really is any typical to this NN position.) By the way I also have Jupiter in the 10th house in Taurus and it is in square to my NN. Gosh, it seems there is some bigger and harder lesson for me in this mess. I guess it really has something to do with that faith and trust theme as well.
    Please forgive all my possible misspellings since don’t really speak English as a native. Just wanted to tell you my story about NN <3 Keep up doing the good work ^^

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  21. I have NN in Capricorn conjunct (though not exact) uranus. in the eighth house.

    Self reliance via surviving deeply transformational emotional upheaval? Emotional freedom? Emotional transformation via lots and lots of death and grief and transformation of self that feels like a death of my old selves for the newer, more aligned self to align with greater independence? Lately I've been feeling rather haunted by this need to have inner strength no matter how little the outer support is when I ask for it-- like really fortifying my ability to support myself in ways that are compassionate and sustainable no matter who is or isn't there in the rough times. P I add question marks because I am not sure if that's what my NN is about or some other portion of my chart. But to be honest the NN in eighth house still surprises me. I sometimes wonder if I was born a little earlier in the day which would land me in the 9th house and make more sense (though I am a Sagittarius so of course it would "feel" better to me) but maybe NN isn't about "making sense" and "feeling right." My Saturn is in Aquarius in 10th house and I feel this one DEEPLY. it's stronger than my sun sometimes so I know NN in Capricorn, regardless of the house, is about me striking it out on my own, beyond home base, beyond ancestral patterns and beyond mommy/daddy emotional patterns (cancer SN). or at least I think so, lol.

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    1. Does Uranus add to the "sudden change" factor that seems to ask for my flexibility and quick-on-the-feet responses to establishing independence or does it mean to take more unconventional, out of the box methods to asserting my idependence?

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  22. I have my NN in Aquarius in the 10th House. I also have my midheaven in Aquarius so I don't know if this plays a big part in my chart. Definitely always felt like a free spirit but in a way I suppressed it to fit in!

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  23. Virgo north node with my midheaven ruler conjunct the north node. I have a 0 degree north node. With my return inching I've never felt such anxiety! It's ridiculous. Haha. It's coming!

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  24. I have Virgo NN in the 4th house & Pisces SN in the 10th house (My Aries Saturn is in that house too so it's just a mess up there lol). It's really hard because I identify so much with Piscean energy, esp. because my moon is in Pisces. My Sagittarius sun is in the 6th which conjuncts Pluto so it's really my only hope to try and work towards my Virgo NN. I try to be Virgo-like, eat healthy, work out, be more organized, but when life gets overwhelming I revert to my Pisces self and start sleeping at odd hours, neglect cleaning my room, daydream like crazy, etc. It's one of the reasons why I don't even wanna consider trying weed, which so many of the Pisces SN peers do. I just feel like I'll indulge in it, and a Virgo would never do that so I stay away lol. When I envision my future, I see myself as having a career (which I'm lost as to what that is but I just keep swimming) but it's hard for me to imagine having a stable home and starting my own family. I guess it's just one of the lessons that I have to learn.

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    1. Sending you love and total comprehension from a fellow Pisces SN/Virgo NN.
      Me tooooo!

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    2. Another Virgo NN in 4th here! I'm going through the same experiences (especially piscean - I guess they're even more emphasized by my Pisces MC) and unfortunately so far can't tell you what kind of lesson I've learnt as I'm currently at a beginner stage. For now I can only say that my lifestyle is pretty chaotic, there are times when work piles up to incredible amounts because I'm feeling unable to act, do anything and prefer to engage in anything but the actual work (as if I'm scared of getting down to it, of facing the reality). And yes, I would like to become organised - that is something I slowly begin to understand and it's becoming an ideal I strive for (I can see it in my actions though it's still not enough). However, I don't really know how these particular house placements manifest themselves in this aspect? (especially curious about 10th house SN in Pisces)...

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    3. I think having our NN in the 4th house means that we have to prioritize our personal/family life as opposed to our professional/public life in order to be fulfilled. So as Virgo NN's, it would be good for us to spend more time organizing, cleaning, adjusting to routines at home. I think through that, we gain a sense of clarity, and we are able to balance out our Pisces traits and have a more concrete idea of our purpose in the public stage (Pisces SN in the 10th)

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    4. Great discussion, guys! And you Virgo North Node's are all over this post. I would say that, yeah, the Virgo North Node in the 4th is calling for a personal life that has a certain order, discipline, clarity, or efficiency to it. You are also being challenged to develop a relationship with your loved ones that is very helpful. You should strive to be there for them in practical, supportive ways but should also have the kind of support system in your life that is very helpful and keeps you grounded and clear-headed.

      The Pisces South Node in the 10th shows that you can get lost in your life goals and your public image to the point of sheer confusion, either drifting your way through your professional life or trying to be all things for all people out in the world. But, when you develop this efficient, clear, productive private life/foundation, your professional life will feel a lot less messy, overwhelming, and confusing and will simply be a way for you to provide compassion and imagination to society.

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    5. I have Virgo NN in 5th house. I bit contradictory though...Virgo is about order and efficiency while
      5th house is about fun and creativeness...So far Virgo challenges are more approachable to me rather than 5th house essence. For me is easier to be serious and efficient rather than playful and funny-silly...I want to be capable to balance it more :)

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    6. Oh my God! Virgo NN in my ninth house. I struggle so much with just swimming, not moving fast enough, and giving it all over to the divine. The problem is I'm a spiritual mentor and coach, so it seems so contradictory to make goals and manifestation lists, and honestly it feels like there is some fear there that if I'm really clear on what I want, that I won't be supported or taken care of, so in essence this theme of feeling like I might be victimized prevents me from even asking for help . I know I need more tangible and strategic approaches to life, which will help, if I'm going to be more successful and feel secure, which I do desire. I don't think it helps that my chart is very trans personal with most planets in the 12th, 11th and 10th houses. I feel like I might never get this right.

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  25. NN Leo house 3, SN Aquarius house 9...I kinda know what I'm supposed to to but it's still hard to ask for anything for myself. I'm still scared to ask for a proper salary, or to charge for my work, I do a lot of things for 'greater good' still, which is not a bad thing, but lately I really started to feel itchy, like wanting to be seen, heard and valued more... I'm also in my thirties so I guess I'm a late bloomer :) Also, about Aquarius SN in 9th-I've never actually cared about what other people think, if I believe in something I never ask for anybody else's approval...idk if that is in any way related to my nodes.

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  26. I have a 29 degree Virgo nn conjunct libra moon and mars in 12th house, opposite Pisces sn conjunct Aries Saturn in the sixth. Lessons learned would be 1. What should be the source of direction in my life 2. Time management 3. The type of language I use in public and when I am by myself 4. And learning what energizes me and depletes me, and then dealing w addiction (to negativity, sleepiness, fantasy)
    I feel like Saturn conjunct sn gifted me with the ability to breakdown/ deconstruct( or build up a new one, or both!) my sense of reality whenever I was in a situation I did not want to be in like responsibilities and bullying and in the spotlight scenarios. I would override it with fantasy. And overtime I did not let go of it naturally. It too an extreme sense of separation and depression at 8-9 y/o (when I really think about it). I grew up being really shy about my emotions and enthusiasm for lots of things. So i led forward having a sense of composure (that was determined by other people's idea of composure, and what kind of life was worthy to live), and that usually dealt with me being a victim somehow. I didn't really allow that to sink in until now.
    But yeah transits to my nn (Saturn a few years ago and Jupiter a few months) brought to my attention how much I've been letting things go in the wrongest way possible (for my overall health). And trying to grip at reality in the wrongest way possible as well. I guess in general my lesson has been about balancing two types of functions of living life and not getting so lost in either of them as the right way to live life.

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  27. My NN is in Libra in the 1st house, with SN conjunct Venus in the 7th.
    It's all about lessons in relationships for me, primarily my Self-relationship, and finding my voice/not losing my boundaries, which is hard as a Pisces sun, with Neptune conjunct my IC.
    Until my house is built upon a solid foundation, I know I wont be able to have the intimate relationship I seek. I run a practice as a psychotherapist, so boundaried relationships and their lessons are all around me.

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  28. Hello,i have direct NN Scorpio?What does it mean?

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  29. I have NN in Scorpio, 10th house conj. Pluto in the same degree. I have always struggled with asking for help. As a kid, I excelled by toiling over math homework. In fact, scorpionic obsession has pretty much been the backbone to my success. Of course it makes me a little ADD, I get that hyper focus and then hours later I haven't been taking care of other things I need to do. I feel like a bug zapper. Scorpios are attracted to me, but they incite a reaction out of me. I dated one off and on for 3 years in my teens. I learned a lot of things from that relationship, but it was not good for me. Since then I've been trying to keep scorpios that fly to me at an arms distance or else I might zap them because they have a way of... bugging me (I have Aquarius and Taurus emphasis). I'm constantly reinventing myself. Learning from mistakes has been a big lesson, and I've noticed most people don't take the time to do this. "Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting a different result". As far as careers go, right now I'm sensing myself trend toward helping people change their selves/lives on a personal level. So far I've started pursuing interior design, astrology, cosmetics, fashion, and I give advice to those who seek me out.

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  30. i have North Nodes in Taurus in 6th house

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  31. i have North Nodes in Taurus in 6th house

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  32. I have a NN in Sagittarius in the 8th house, so SN in Gemini in the 2nd house.

    I'm not quite sure what that means though haha. Any help? :)

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  33. NN in virgo in 11th house Trine my saturn in taurus in my 2nd but square my pluto in saggitarius in my 2nd house, interpretations please

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